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Gamification Expert Sophia Burrell Explores the Power of Storytelling and Engagement<br /><br /><br /><br />In this engaging episode of "Conversations with Joshua T Berglan," host Joshua Berglan interviews special guest Sophia Burrell, a multi-talented professional with a background in psychology and expertise in the subject of gamification. Sophia shares her fascinating journey and insights on how she creates customized board video games centered round an individual, brand, or business, serving to them join with their audience on a deeper degree.<br /><br /><br /><br />Together, Sophia and Joshua dive deep into topics similar to mindset, legacy, the facility of media, and the significance of gratitude. Their insightful conversation highlights the potential for private progress and positive change by way of the facility of storytelling and gamification. Viewers might be left inspired to discover new ways of engaging with their audience and leaving a significant legacy.<br /><br />This description consists of related keywords and phrases that people are more doubtless to search for when on the lookout for information about gamification, storytelling, private progress, and constructive change. It can be well-written and informative, and it accurately reflects the content material of the video.<br /><br /><br /><br />Learn More About Sophia<br /><br /><br /><br />Sophia Burrell<br /><br />Founder/CEO/Board Game Designer<br /><br />Sophia Burrell International, Inc.<br /><br />sophiaburrellintl.com<br /><br />A inventive area the place gamification, psychology and playful critical considering are integrated.<br /><br />***Board Game Goddess<br /><br />***V.I.C.T.O.R.Y. Method<br /><br />***Gamify Your Goals (.com) to Win Course<br /><br />Sophia Burrell International, Inc. | board sport creators (sophiaburrellintl.com)<br /><br />Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/sophiaburrell <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Transcript<br /><br />This editable transcript was pc generated and might contain errors.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: okay, Sophia Burrell, you are Inspiring to me. And I simply need to let you know that.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Okay, thank you.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: when I got your email on LinkedIn, I looked over it and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And Even though, I did not understand everything that you just had been doing. I just had this robust feeling that you had been doing something.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Okay.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: So I went digging. and the more I've learned about you, the extra I am humbled to talk to you. welcome to conversations with Joshua,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Thank…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: T-barg one.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I am blessed to have you ever right here.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Thank you.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I'm good to fulfill you.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Where are you at right now? Because you do enterprise everywhere in the world but you're an East coast now too. You're?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I'm in Queens At the second. I just lately transfer from Long Island So I'm in Queens proper now attempting to I'm gonna be transitioning.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: <br /><br />Sophia Burrell: So this is my transition section. So I'm here temporarily in Queens. New York.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: No and the place you're going again.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I originally lived in Long Island, are you familiar with New York?<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Okay. I am,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I Love New York.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Okay, I lived in Long Island. And I know I imply Queens briefly however I'm considering of upstate New York or…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Okay.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Connecticut. Because I am not likely a city individual.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: <br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I don't actually like New York City, I hate the crowd I hate apartment residing. Let's put it that means, the place there's someone above you underneath,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: <br /><br />Sophia Burrell: you left, and proper of It's not one thing that I like so much. So I'm transitioning to either join to chop or upstate.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Connecticut is beautiful too, so It is after I was in healthcare,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes, I know. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: the enterprise that we sold out to, we sold our family business, to an enormous national firm, and so they have been wager primarily based in Connecticut.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Okay.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: So I received to go up there for the first time and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: What an unreal place. So I imply, it's beautiful But there was additionally an element to it that I felt like I was 20 years back in time, and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Mm- Okay.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: then there was some areas where I felt like I was 200 years again in time so the Northeast is a really interesting a half of the United States but<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Im No, I was thinking of staying closer to the city which is Fairfield County So I don't want to go anywhere past that.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Mm- Okay. Okay. …<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: So yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: you've an accent.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I'm initially from Jamaica. I came to the US three months after 9-11,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: okay.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: imagine it or not. Yes.<br /><br /> [https://etextpad.com/z2dtw4sc31 game theory, gamification, Joshua T Berglan, shock jock, media, new media, business consulting, the worlds mayor, the worlds mayor experience] : Okay, I'm gonna query then. that's attention-grabbing, I didn't know that about What was that coming to America at the moment as a result of that time for anybody who lived in America was, they might most likely look back and say, that is when every little thing modified. But coming to America,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: At that time. What was that like for you?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: It's not something that I take into consideration really as it pertains to 9/11 because it never really affected me right here or…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Sure.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: there to be honest with you as a outcome of I am from one other place. I…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Sure.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I wasn't American and so it affected me differently. So, I mean, I got here to the US and New York particularly and I simply hit the ground working. I would go to Wall Street area, trying to find work and everywhere in the city and it did not affect me, really? To be honest with you, That. But I did understand the magnitude of…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: No, that is<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: what had happened.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: From what I perceive about it. I've been to primarily Jamaican areas like in Costa Rica but not truly Jamaica. And so I've heard you…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I see.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: different stereotypes. I mean I've seen photos of Jamaica which may be completely stunning however then you hear of a variety of the violence and different things that occurs drug commerce.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Is that? What rising up like and once more, I do not know if you grew up around the violence. I do not know any of that stuff. But if you come from a place like that,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: that has that sort of popularity or stereotype to it, being from there, how does that make you feel?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: <br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I mean it does not make me feel any method totally different. I mean it isn't like the violence was right in my yard or something,<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: So I was having a conversation with somebody a number of days ago And I remember in Jamaica, I attended high school. I was an athlete. I was the quickest woman a lady in my college and every morning we needed to meet at the National Stadium for coaching. And I would leave the home at 5 am within the mornings. Throughout highschool. And it daybreak on me, I assume earlier this 12 months, that it was so harmful for me to attempt this, but I simply never thought of it that method. Because each morning would have to meet at the stadium at six o'clock and…<br /><br />00:05:00<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: must leave the home at 5:00. Walk to the bus cease. And take that bus, I do not know, perhaps about 30 minutes drive and meet the group there. And so, In the violence wasn't essentially in my backyard. Because I imply, I did that throughout high school and I wasn't at risk or anything. I survived it.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I am. And that is attention-grabbing because I've heard just about the identical factor from other folks that come from places with stereotypical tons of violence, and crime and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: gangs, and I've heard the same thing. And then in my very own expertise and I've lived in primarily massive cities, and I've been surrounded by craziness and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: violence, and poverty, and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Right. Right.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: homelessness and drug use and all of the stuff that comes with Living in a significant city. But if you're there, you are just dwelling and What?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah, you simply residing and my mind there are neighborhoods which are well-known for being, there areas…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: where there are violence however I didn't live in those neighborhoods. So, you…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Or grasp on the market.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I did not experience it today,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: be up what? I'm sorry.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I said We're hanging on the market,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah. I got it. So together with your background in psychology, And, after all, the gamification of life that you just give you. And Is simply so neat,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: No, I never did. So<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: however what led you into the field of psychology?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: <br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I'm not sure there's something about studying about human behavior and the way the you're considering impacts your behavior and all that type of stuff. I do not know. I was at all times fascinated by it and I did rather well. I mean there's something that I'm always a little Nervous about sharing just isn't. I did my grasp's online. University of Phoenix and so I don't know. For some purpose, there's somewhat stigma to that but I did my psychology diploma on-line and…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Really.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: did very properly. I received a very high GPA I think as a end result of I was so interested in All the subjects of psychology. I don't know. I loved it. And so,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I was.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: yeah. Go ahead.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I was drawn to it, at all times too, and I could not clarify why. I did not even enjoy reading. I do not get pleasure from studying that much. But in terms of things about…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: how our mind works, how I was drawn to,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: criminals and psychopaths, and serial killers, and never that I needed to be one. nevertheless it,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: however in some way, Because I went via my own trauma and, abuse and different things. And I do not want to go into my story now.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: But I noticed a lot of things growing up that have been darkish and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: evil and conflicting with also growing up in the church, it was,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Right.<br /><br /> [https://open-isa.org/members/kisspeace2/activity/709119/ game theory, gamification, Joshua T Berglan, shock jock, media, new media, business consulting, the worlds mayor, the worlds mayor experience] : I was immersed in the world of excellent and evil and the evil aspect of things seem extra fascinating to me as a result of the great,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: the good appears so unreachable. So, for…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I was relating more to the dark facet once more. Not that I wished to go. Anyone. but how that thoughts worked and everything from intercourse addiction to violence to so on and it's fascinating because it almost<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: We are so fragile as humans but. At the same time, we're expected and even To have all of this power and knowing in their identification. But yet everything that we appear to come across on this life in this world,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Seems to be an assault on our identification, to keep us from figuring out who we really are. Am I really far off here or…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah. No.<br /><br />00:10:00<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: straight someplace shut.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: And, I was listening to a podcast, some weeks in the past and the particular person mentioned, Psychology is a soft science. As if it's not necessary or it was like on the thoughts within the significance of what psychology is. And I felt insulted that he said that, it might be delicate science. I mean I guess to a degree however I mean psychology effects every little thing.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Everything.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Doesn't it? Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I'm at this place now where I imagine that our thoughts, I shifted my belief about lots of issues about a yr ago and I started to Kind of come to this place where the Garden of Eden tennis Okay. The Garden of Eden.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Seems to me to be the brain. and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Okay.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: that could be far off and that I might go off on a tangent on this. But there seems to be this warfare on our mind, your vision television programming. once we get into this sort of stuff, and I'm really into mind control. And I've read a lot of books on this.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah, my video games. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And I'm tying our external stimuli. All of the completely different programming.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: All of the totally different entertainment are multi-screen leisure. It's on each attainable gadget that we will get some sort of content to fill our minds with. And what do we choose to do that?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And so it seems like we're programming ourselves, and I'm beginning to work this belief that a lot of these books and flicks and different issues from the past years past that have been displaying us a future. it's almost like we by watching these things and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: talking about it or manifesting these realities that Hum from our television. Is it,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: So humorous.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: what do you consider that?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah, it is so funny. You ought to say that as a end result of I was watching the History Channel some weeks ago. And this fascination that Americans have with breakfast being egg and bacon. that was someone's a advertising.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah. Look<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Tactic some a few years ago. what that was advertising and…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: That's true.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: people just bought into it and it's a pure factor for folks now but it was a marketing ploy. I do not know, I don't bear in mind what decade however perhaps within the 1900 someplace however I imply, the way in which that marketing labored, we now do not even notice that there was someone's thought. Of us,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah, it is crazy.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: it's crazy, isn't it?<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And then I imply I would think of boot campaigns<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: That wasn't much. I think it was a advertising ploy to sell more eggs or something like that. I don't quite remember nevertheless it was a advertising ploy.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I keep in mind Pork, the other white meat that marketing campaign when that got here out. I imply,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: yeah, you are right. There's one thing to that. I mean, they've accomplished it with cigarettes. I mean,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: So okay. why you bought into psychology and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: But the gamification.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Mm-hmm<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: So I interviewed someone and the timing of this is so interesting as a outcome of simply final week, I interviewed, somebody an incredible woman, her identify is Ashton and what she does is she goes into move into enterprise meetings, and it would work with faculty too, however she simply gets sharpies and markers and he or she's drawing and sketching throughout this meeting and what she creates for the individuals which are a part of this assembly is that this visual representation of that meeting that for some cause, these photos that she draws helps everyone in that Get the total benefit of what that meeting was alleged to be out and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: wow.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: it by some means brings them all collectively. And I thought, that is really attention-grabbing. And I did not perceive any of it ly, and I still don't absolutely perceive it.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: But what you are doing? Is like to me and I'm not placing down what Ashton does. It all? Because I love Ashton. It's really considered one of my favourite people on the planet now. however you're taking, But kind of what that is, however you're doing something far. Almost. It feels deeper and it looks like this process and you correct me if I'm mistaken as a outcome of I haven't learn any research or research, but it seems like by these customized board games which may be centered across the individual, the model, the id, the business, it's helping, then get into the unconscious of who's taking part in their sport. Okay, explain…<br /><br />00:15:00<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: what you do now for the viewers. So I don't, however<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: So I am fascinated with this gamification process and it started by chance truly in 2018. my door, I was struggling in my enterprise and my eldest thought of me creating a business kit for my business. now, we went on-line and have a glance at examples, however none of them seem to Fit what I was doing. But we had been brainstorming all morning and what to do and, my brand is the Victory acronym. I'm unsure you are conscious of that. So my brand is a victory acronym. And we were attempting to determine how we will create a business kit round this acronym. and a board sport thought came out of that brainstorming session with my daughter.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Wow.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: And I created Conferences At first, it was known as Victory Trail Game. Utilizing all the traits throughout the acronym, so I'm not sure…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Mmm.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: if you understand that, So I use the word victory as an acronym the place each letter represents a permanent high quality or attribute that important to victory. And so, that was what my first sport was about these seven attributes. And so I put C represents confidence. And that was in the heart of the sport. So that was my first game and I used to go into college, I was in Long Island at the time and I would go to Suffolk County and ship Joseph's college and have Display the sport and get their suggestions. And so my love of gamification began primarily based on that. earlier this 12 months, I was hanging out so much with them. It's a good friend of mine here. He owns a plumbing firm in Harlem. And I thought of<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: He has been good to me, And I thought of doing one thing for him in as a payback mainly and that created a game for him however just the game is predicated on his business. What he does. So there are four areas that individuals name them about on a regular basis. Overflowing rest room overflow, sewer, overflow kitchen sink overflow, and no warmth. And I created a recreation based mostly on these 4. Services. And that was where. Building board games for others happened.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: So, you built the sport form. Does he promote the sport to his customers?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: No. No,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: How does that work?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: the sport was supposed to be for his workers because there are some decrease level employees…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: <br /><br />Sophia Burrell: who need to know the fundamentals of plumbing. And so the game was very in-depth. It's not just for enjoyable. The game was a learning tool as nicely, however I did a deep dive into plumbing to create that recreation. so for any of his workers are enjoying the game, they're learning something about how to do. Certain primary stuff employment.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: So okay, so if I was a broadcaster, What kind of sport would you create for a broadcaster or…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: am I giving away secrets and techniques by asking this question? Okay.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: No, after all So I imply a broadcaster. So what we try to do in our game development, is to use the corporate's story, and their model message and weave that into the narrative of the sport. So I must know the story of this broadcaster.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: <br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I must know what their model message is. and that is the idea of building a story in the sport.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: So what type of like clearly that is effective because you're working in Africa, the UK Australia, the United States, I miss…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Let me right you there,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Europe.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: is that? okay, so I construct the game for somebody in the UK, But I'm the reason…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: why I talked about Australia and Africa is as a outcome of I'm trademarked in plenty of international locations. So, it's not that I really labored there or…<br /><br />00:20:00<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Okay.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: it is not that. I built some game for someone there, however I'm trademarked all over the world. and it is the concept. And the explanation why I did that is also as a result of I'm interested working in these areas. I'm interested in working in these countries, so a trademark my stuff there. So, after I get there, there's no confusion, That's what she does and I'm not intervening in different folks's. Brand. So, I secured my spot in some international locations and I do not actually work there.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Fair sufficient. But it's too okay. Then either means that actually I'm extra impressed by that you have got the foresight in the belief and the vision to know that you will be doing enterprise there. So you prepared I love that now good.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: M- which is why it was fascinating. When I construct this recreation for Guy in London, I actually felt Somewhat snug as a result of I'm trademark there. My book is in the library's there.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: So I really feel it's like, I even have all that is these issues arrange there way before, I visited The place.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: What, I'm the world's mayor and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: <br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I haven't been all around the world but and I'm not officially the world's mayor but, but I personal the area. And however I really have a global imaginative and prescient. I really have a coronary heart for community And this nickname…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: how I took place, it do not need to go into the story, however I have a world imaginative and prescient that I am obsessive about in most of the place my vision takes place. I have by no means seen an image of aside from a photo. I imply I've seen pictures of it but by no means been I actually have pals and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: people that I know from there, these locations throughout Africa is one of them including South Africa. Since I was a baby, I've had these desires.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Of working there and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Right. Yes,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: serving there. and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: me too.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I'm and…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I've been obsessive about that. My complete life haven't been there but. But once more, my mindset my goals, and the way I want to influence the world. it is fitting of that nickname. So it's like I'm simply gonna step into that swimsuit every time the Creator allows it to occur,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Mm- Yes.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: however every thing I do is to maneuver in direction of that aim.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Mm- Yeah. Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Let me ask you this, what sort of mindset for you as a your psychiatrist? Correct. It's<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I'm not a psychiatrist. I even have a master's Insideology.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: That's okay. I needed to thank you for clarifying. I'm trying to go off of every little thing. I remember from reading and I don't have notes with me so I'm going off reminiscence.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: But that type of background. What is your mindset? when you have this massive goal in this massive dream but you're not there yet. What keeps you going? Every day pursuing that objective.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: what retains me going is, from, for a few years I've always said, as a matter of reality, I said this in high school And I remember writing it down in one of many again of my book. Before I die, I need the world to know who Sophia Burrell was. And pay attention,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Why?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I do not know why I said it at the time. But that was simply one thing within me. And since I realized that I've been residing my life chasing this That statement earlier than I die.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: <br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I want folks to know who I am. I do not need to be. this obscure determine that nobody knows about, And I assume that was what drove me also to trademark in all the nations that I have. Because my books as a end result of let you know what, I did, So drew the pandemic. What I did was I ordered 20 copies of my book. And I mailed it to libraries in, I don't know, possibly in Five Libraries in Africa. In the UK and some places within the Caribbean. And I think that is so, okay, I'm gonna give you the story.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: What an excellent idea.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: The first time so was so, I went to Europe in March, right? And my flight.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah.<br /><br />00:25:00<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I was going straight to Paris my enterprise partner lives in Paris. And so I had a connecting flight in London. But because Paris had a strike, the flights have been canceled between London and Paris, and so I had to stay over in London for the night time. So I'm strolling round looking for a cheap place to remain here and I hold passing this library, which it was near, the Victoria coach station. And I had one copy of my guide. And I stated,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Okay.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: You know what? I'm gonna go in there. So I know, I went to e-book the room first, put my stuff down, and then I went back to the library and told them that I asked the man who was on the front desk. I stated is it potential to have put my guide on the catalog that you have here? He was giving me a narrative, some excuses about. The Library of Congress and all that stuff. And I said, okay, and I was really working out. When I remember that I did mail some books to London. went back to him and I stated, I did mail some books to some libraries in London. Could you just check when you have it on your catalog already? And he checked. And my e-book. Is within the library system in London.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: <br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I was so shocked because I mean I simply did this really you…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: sending my books. I just went online to find some library addresses and mail my book with a observe on it they usually put my book on their catalog. So, I think having that mindset from that time. Is what drove me for is driving me to do these things as a end result of I don't need to cross and no one knows who Sophia Burrell was. So I'm always say to my youngsters. if I die today. my books will still be in the libraries. and years from now, people will nonetheless be, reading my guide<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I'm gonna ask you a personal question. Because I have the identical need,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I would phrase it in one other way.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: My phrases would sound completely different but it means the same exact thing.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And I say until I want to be famous, but well-known for the proper reasons not well-known as I was an actor. I need to be well-known for the work that I do for different folks and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I assist individuals And that's the legacy that I want to depart, but I want to be famous for making different people. Famous, that's…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: as a matter of truth,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: what I want.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: yeah, you employ that word, sorry that I always use as well, I think having This vision. it's about leaving a legacy and…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: you just use that phrase. it's really about legacy. It's not me desirous to be well-known.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And when I say well-known once more, it isn't from an ego place. It's for the Famous people have wasted a chance to take action a lot damn good on the planet. And they've power powers more important than money…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: as a end result of power provides you influence.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: When you have energy, you'll have the ability to stroll into a room and you can make things occur. And I am bored with watching individuals suffer.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Nothing. Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I am bored with watching voices being drowned out by a corporate media with an agenda. There is not any room for truth in this world,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: or no less than. That's what people think. Therefore, they silence themselves.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Or some individuals do not even know tips on how to use their voice and they're intimidated to use their voice due to what happens to them when they speak the truth. And I drives me nuts and I need to be part of that change. certainly one of my objectives in life is to be a part of it. I know I can't do it alone, however I wish to be one of the<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Influential truth, that one of the influences behind shattering, the power that lies in the arms of some of the media,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I want to shatter into hundreds of thousands of people of pieces to give the ability to millions of people and spread it out because that way different folks will have an opportunity to get their voices heard. And the reality,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Right.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: although there shall be room for truth. And I don't imagine that we are ready to heal this conflict between races and religions and every little thing else. So we've the absolute truth and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: we do not have that right now.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah, I agree. one has to surprise, why is it that when individuals come into cash they hold on to it. So tightly where they'd by no means assist. A neighborhood or assist one other particular person or typically surprise and I know take a look at Jeff Bridge, Jeff Bezos for example. I don't remember how a lot is yacht. He has a yard that's cost, I don't know 15 million or one thing like that. And I'm like I imply, is that more important than sending half of that to some Third World nation to help them or I do not know.<br /><br />00:30:00<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: perhaps if I even have that kind of cash that I'll assume in a special way. I'm unsure. But it seems like there's a lot waste when that money Could be more helpful somewhere somewhere else in the world.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I was watching a YouTube video about a month ago and it was about they were exhibiting this warehouse that the Saudi prince had That he had each make and mannequin of each single automotive ever made in these cars, simply set there. And the reason I heard that they had that Was because they should spend that cash or they get taxed to demise or something like that. Like they need that.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Always.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Those depreciating property, that was the reason I heard and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: it sort of makes sense, however on the similar time, there's nonetheless a hundred billion dollars and you have God knows what kind of credit score. you can go rebuild some communities, there isn't any purpose for homelessness.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: In America at all, there's none. But yet we have a homeless epidemic growing<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah. people. Was additionally saying that Jamaica is certainly crime ridden. And what I mean? I misplaced my chain of thought. Okay, so folks will say plenty of negative issues about the Caribbean Jamaican explicit. But there are poverty here in America. That's worse than the Jamaica, I…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Really. I haven't been to Jamaica so I don't know.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: don't you find?<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: But I lived in Los Angeles. I've lived in Vegas. I've lived all over California in San Diego too.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes. Right.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I've spent a lot time in San Francisco and I even have a coronary heart for the homeless group.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Right.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: So I've accomplished a lot of work with them over there, even here that's near me in Minneapolis. and I've seen some things that are like this is in America, it's skid row point,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: There's not.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: you've all of those children running round and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: .<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: it is like, How is that this allowed? So I don't know…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: what it's like there to find a way to comment on it, but I do know. It's some pretty sketchy stuff here.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: the homelessness in Jamaica Is nowhere near what was happening in LA. You…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Wow.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: and So I grew up in Jamaica.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I actually have. And So I know that Jamaica is a tropical place. it's warm year spherical. And so there's so many fruits there to eat. It's like You can't really go hungry. I go to my grandmother's place and there's a cashew tree at the again, there's apple tree, There's guinea, there's Star Pool. There's banana. All those things are in my grandmother's yard, so it is like a,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Wow.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: you possibly can't go hungry. Maybe there are folks there who're going hungry however it was not my experience.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I assume that Jamaica's featured on this e-book, called Happiness in the Blue Zones, Do you know about this…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: yeah. No.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: It's concerning the happiest places on the Planet National Geographic, I think wrote the e-book it.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: And Jamaica's woman.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I think Jamaica is likely considered one of the locations that is listed as happiest on the world.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: No. Right.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Costa Rica is one. Switzerland is one other.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: <br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And they speak about there's high taxes. Yes. But all of, that is taken care of. and again, I do not bear in mind precisely.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: But I do suppose Jamaica was there. I know for certain. Costa Rica was too. And the only thing that I take into consideration, when you mentioned the fruit timber and every little thing is that folks live daily, they reside within the moment and they are grateful for what they've within the second. And that seems to be this underlying throughout the board with all of those countries and the blue zones. That everybody was grateful for what they'd in the second that was the frequent theme amongst in any respect.<br /><br />00:35:00<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And yet in America, because we obtained to buy the subsequent factor. Gotta purchase the newest thing,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: It's a tradition,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: obtained It's a part of our tradition.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: it's the cultural factor I guess. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: You're right. How do you<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Because there's a little bit of a dopamine fix. When you buy one thing new, otherwise you get something new and exciting, but it goes away really fast.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: It's type of like doing a drug like cocaine the place you get those few minutes of euphoria and then s***. I got to do another one. And one other one.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And when that has turn into a culture? and an id, even How do you reverse that or…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: does it simply should be broken…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: What I mean?<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: but isn't it funny? I do not know.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Even if it is damaged, there must be some solution but I don't know. So there's certain issues that are so steeped in the American culture. it is gonna be onerous to repair, So I don't know how to answer that.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: yeah, I all the time consider, there's a pastor in America, his title's TD Jakes, He, …<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I love him.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: he is recognized for saying the blessing is in the breaking.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes. sure.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: my so each time and that's finally when I heard that it type of made me hooked on<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Okay, I know this is gonna damage but I'm doing it. Anyway and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes. He?<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: not physical damage, however emotionally damage the place that is one other example of me needing to die to myself. This is another part of killing a half of my ego.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: This is I don't want to speak about this, however I want to talk about Whatever it's. going through that pain,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: But that's a mindset. Mm-hmm.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: going through that big going to slay, that dragon is painful and brutal because the experience could additionally be. There's blessings all up in it, it's<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes, and, I think, that was a mindset shift, proper learning that from him and…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Mmm.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: it is shifted me as properly. I remember that sermon. I still take heed to him. Constantly, I love TD Jakes. he has a means of wording issues that just makes it really easy To understand and…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah. I 100% agree.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: to Lots of takeaways from his sermons.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And what he does I mean As a businessman too, like his data of media.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I was inspiring for me, he adopted the same format in a blueprint like Oprah going.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: He was impartial media before impartial media grew to become a factor and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: he lined all of the bases music and books and talking in film and production and he was masking all of the bases. So he was a huge affect for me, kind of across the board, not even just in ministry,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: however as a businessman as an leisure and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: as a media, he was a massive influence, however I heard him speak at the Rock church in San Diego. He was selling his e-book sore.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Okay.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And Soar was one other one of many books the place they talk about the blessing, being of the breaking.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes, sure.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: and it changed my life and one of many examples that he gave and I'd like to get your comments on this, but he was talking about An airplane that is simply misplaced a wing.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Okay.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: It's coming down and pilot. it might possibly do considered one of two things. my God,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I got<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: panic.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I've received one wing, I'm touchdown this plane. I'm getting everyone house safely.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: This is what I obtained and it was focus on the things. You do have it.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes, exactly.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Not what you notice.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah yeah,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: That?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: love that.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: That was the story. if you hear What does that imply to you?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I kind of reside my life additionally based mostly on some of the belongings you say I assume I'm knowledgeable optimist.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: <br /><br />Sophia Burrell: And folks could be aggravated with me too being this optimistic. It's like nobody desires to be round an optimistic person all the time. If one thing goes mistaken, I'm like, what is that this alleged to mean? what's God's greater plan? Why He has put me via this difficulty?<br /><br />00:40:00<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: That's all I think, however touching again on t. There's something that TG Jakes stated, he has so many nuggets out there. But This one, he said no person would have identified Jesus. If it wasn't for Judas Right.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: That's true.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Because Judas betrayed Jesus. That's What created this thing round Jesus, So, it is don't Feel offended when you're betrayed or if folks do not like you're being criticized. Maybe that's a blessing in disguise. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: There was one other saying that was about betrayal and blessings however you'll find a way to't have the blessing with out betrayal or one thing like that. In another one that I love,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: that did not come from TD Jakes. I first heard it from Ed Mylett and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Okay. …<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: that is life occurs for you.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I love the mallet.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Hello guys.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I interviewed him three or…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: 4 years in the past and I had one of the best time here.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: You need you?<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Do I?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: He mentioned it met him. did…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Yeah, I interviewed him. yeah,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Wow.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: yeah, it I was once I was dwelling in LA and He was great.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: My goodness. No, I'm jealous.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: He opened up.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: I'm so jealous of that.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: He opened up on his relationship with God and I got him to speak in a special way than he usually does an interviews and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Right. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: it was nice however I received kicked off of YouTube and so I misplaced that I interviewed someplace, however I misplaced it anyway…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah. yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: however he's an amazing man but he said that too in that very same stuck out to my head because every time something bad occurred. I developed this mindset of going.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I know that is taking place for me.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: For 4 reasons.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I auditioned for the Miami heat, I can now say it. I to do TV for them and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: audition and I simply came upon that I did not get it. anyone else's obtained the gig and my first response was Something higher is coming from me. I received something better and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I really did not even really want the job as a outcome of I'm a Oklahoma City Thunder fan but it will have been a great opportunity. But my instant response was Something God's received one thing higher for me and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Of course.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: And I would have by no means had that mindset if I did not hear 4 years ago, life occurs for you.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes, of course. Yeah. No.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Because I'm not a victim and everything is understanding in my favor.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yes, your favor.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: God has confirmed that daily of my life and even once I was not even walking with God, Looking again at it. When I should have most likely been killed,…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: God ought to have just taken me out. He was still lining my paths, and with all the hardship, all of the struggle, all of that. It's all turned out to be a blessing. Every little bit of it.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Do you recall this other sermon that he had about the storm? so typically No,…<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: How eagles rise above the storm? and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: no, we're not.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: it was, are you talking about How an eagle makes use of the storm to rise above?<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: yeah, I know however that one, too, but that is not the one I'm referred to. So,<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: that's Miles Monroe. They did that one. Okay, good.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: so he stated, Sometimes, when a the storm doesn't come to harm you. The storm comes to possibly redirect your path. Yeah, right.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I like that one, too.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I, Man, what a life. You're so enjoyable to speak to. I'm so glad that you came on.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: yeah, you do.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: I want you to, I mean, we could simply keep speaking for hours, however I would love so that you just can please plug your corporation plug where people can follow you, where people can get their recreation made and…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Yeah.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: and simply share something that is in your heart.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: It's Sophia Burrell. I N T L. Dot com. That's the internet site. And I also have a course referred to as Gamify Your objectives. And I lately modified it to gamify yourself. So the course relies on the victory acronym, we spoke of earlier. And you presumably can join there at gamify your objectives.com.<br /><br />00:forty five:00<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Excellent, do you've any final words? Okay. Sophia.<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: That's it good to fulfill you, Joshua.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: You are a blessing. I'm so glad we obtained to speak and I look forward to attending to know you more All…<br /><br />Sophia Burrell: Thank you so much. Have a great day. Bye.<br /><br />Joshua Berglan: Thank you..